Grade 5 · English language artsAbout 150 minutes
English language artsGrade 5About 150 minutes

Come to a discussion prepared, use what you know to explore ideas, complete an assigned role, build on others' remarks and ask specific questions

Four sessions: preparation notes and the agreed rules; the model discussion and the four roles; practicing elaboration, conclusions and specific questions in pairs; then a small-group discussion with an observer and a whole-class review.

Ohio learning standards this draft targets

ela-2026:SL.5.1aela-2026:SL.5.1bela-2026:SL.5.1cela-2026:SL.5.1dela-2026:SL.5.1e

Read the standard text

ela-2026:SL.5.1a Come to discussions prepared (having read and/or studied materials).

ela-2026:SL.5.1b Explicitly use the information known about the topic to explore ideas under discussion.

ela-2026:SL.5.1c Complete assigned roles.

ela-2026:SL.5.1d Make comments that further the discussion, elaborating on and drawing conclusions from the remarks of others.

ela-2026:SL.5.1e Pose and respond to specific questions to clarify or follow up on information.

Provisional targets. Clause-by-clause educational review is still pending.

Section 1 · LearnLearn the idea
A group of 4 students holds a discussion of 19 numbered turns. The table lists the 4 assigned roles, their jobs and the turns where each student acts in that role (or, for Ben in turn 15, fails to; Dev gives only one of the time checks his role needs).A group of 4 students holds a discussion of 19 numbered turns. The table lists the 4 assigned roles, their jobs and the turns where each student acts in that role (or, for Ben in turn 15, fails to; Dev gives only one of the time checks his role needs).Four roles in the Mill Creek discussionRoleStudentJobsTurnsFacilitatorAvaStates thequestion, keepstalk on it,inviteseveryone, movesto a conclusion1, 5, 7, 14, 17,19RecorderBenWrites keyideas, decisionsand openquestions; readsthem back15 (notes notyet written)Evidence checkerCarmenChecks factsagainst thenotice; askswhere it saysthat3, 8, 10, 13, 18TimekeeperDevWatches theclock; announcestime checks16 (no halfwaycheck)
A group of 4 students holds a discussion of 19 numbered turns. The table lists the 4 assigned roles, their jobs and the turns where each student acts in that role (or, for Ben in turn 15, fails to; Dev gives only one of the time checks his role needs).

Learning goal: This lesson teaches the five parts of Ohio's 2026 standard SL.5.1, first implemented in 2027-28. You will participate in discussions about fifth grade topics and texts in pairs, small groups or whole-class settings, following agreed upon rules. You will come to discussions prepared, having read or studied the materials (SL.5.1a); explicitly use the information known about the topic to explore ideas under discussion (SL.5.1b); complete assigned roles (SL.5.1c); make comments that further the discussion, elaborating on and drawing conclusions from the remarks of others (SL.5.1d); and pose and respond to specific questions to clarify or follow up on information (SL.5.1e). Speaking and listening are learned by doing them, so the class holds real discussions. The written questions at the end ask you to judge and improve the moves in a model discussion.

Agreed upon rules. A class agrees on a few rules before discussing, and every group follows them in pairs, small groups and whole-class talk. A typical set: (1) one person speaks at a time; (2) point to the text when you state a fact; (3) respond to the last speaker before changing the subject; (4) everyone speaks at least twice; (5) disagree with ideas, not people.

Come prepared. Being prepared means you have read or studied the materials before the discussion and can point to them. Having an opinion is not the same as being prepared. Preparation notes have four parts: the discussion question; two or three key facts, each with where you found it; one idea of your own with a reason; and one question you want to ask. Someone who has not read the materials can only guess, and a discussion built on guesses goes nowhere.

Explicitly use what you know. To explore an idea means to think it through out loud: what could it mean, what would follow if it were true, what problems might it cause? Use information you already know about the topic, and say it explicitly, which means stating the information and where it comes from, then connecting it to the idea. Information can come from the text ("The notice says sorters work in the parking lot"), from earlier learning ("In science we learned that plastic does not break down quickly") or from experience ("When I walked that trail, it took me half an hour"). Then connect it: "...so sorting would work for someone who can't walk the trail." Condition: keep known information apart from guesses. "I think," "maybe" and "I'm not sure, but" tell listeners that you are guessing.

Complete assigned roles. In a small group, each person may be assigned a role. The facilitator states the question, keeps talk on the question, invites every member to speak and moves the group toward a conclusion. The recorder writes short notes of key ideas, decisions and open questions and reads them back at the end. The evidence checker checks facts against the materials and asks, "Where does it say that?" The timekeeper watches the clock and announces time checks, such as halfway and two minutes left. To complete a role means doing all of its jobs from the start of the discussion to the end. Two conditions: a role does not replace taking part (the recorder still speaks), and a role does not give one person the power to decide for the group.

Make comments that further the discussion. A comment furthers the discussion when it moves the group's thinking forward. Two kinds of comments do this. An elaborating comment adds a reason, example or detail to another person's remark: "Building on Dev's idea, sorting could also work for anyone who can't walk a whole mile, because the table is in the parking lot." A comment that draws a conclusion puts two or more remarks together and says what follows from them: "If Ben is right that there was a lot of trash, and sorting works for people who can't walk the trail, then our class could split into two jobs." Condition: name the person and the remark you are building on. A comment that only repeats what was said, or starts an unrelated topic, does not further the discussion.

Pose and respond to specific questions. A clarifying question helps you understand a remark that was just made and was unclear to you: "What do the sorters do?" or "Where does the notice say that?" A follow-up question asks for more information or the next step after a remark is understood: "How many adults would we need?" A specific question names exactly what you want to know. "What?" or "Huh?" is not specific; the speaker cannot tell which part to explain. To respond to a question, answer the question that was asked, directly, and give the information or evidence. If you do not know, say so and say how the group could find out. That is still a useful response.

Original notice — Mill Creek Cleanup Day

This notice was written for this lesson. Mill Creek, the Maple Grove Park District and the numbers are invented.

The Maple Grove Park District will hold a cleanup along the Mill Creek trail on the third Saturday in April, from 9:00 to 11:00 a.m. Volunteers sign in at the table in the north parking lot. There are three jobs. Trail pickers walk the one-mile trail with bags and grabbers. Sorters work at the table in the north parking lot, separating bottles and cans for recycling. The welcome crew hands out gloves and water. Volunteers under 12 must come with an adult. No one may go into the water; if the creek is high, trail pickers stay on the paved path. Last year 40 volunteers filled 62 bags of trash. The most common items were plastic bottles and food wrappers. Groups of more than ten must sign up by the Wednesday before the cleanup.

Original discussion — Should our class sign up? (A small group of four students; the turns are numbered so that you can refer to them. Roles: Ava, facilitator; Ben, recorder; Carmen, evidence checker; Dev, timekeeper.)

(1) Ava: "Our question is whether our class should sign up as a group for the cleanup, and which job to ask for. Dev is keeping time, and we have ten minutes. Ben, will you start?"

(2) Ben: "I think we should go. The notice says forty volunteers filled sixty-two bags last year, so there is a lot of trash to pick up."

(3) Carmen: "That number is in the notice. But it is from last year. It doesn't tell us how much trash is there now."

(4) Dev: "Cleanups are boring. Can't we do the science fair instead?"

(5) Ava: "Dev, our question is about the cleanup. What did the notice say about the jobs? That might matter."

(6) Dev: "I didn't really read it."

(7) Ava: "Carmen, can you tell us the jobs?"

(8) Carmen: "There are three: trail pickers, sorters and the welcome crew."

(9) Ben: "What do the sorters do? Are they down by the creek?"

(10) Carmen: "No. The notice says sorters work at the table in the north parking lot, separating bottles and cans for recycling."

(11) Dev: "Oh. Then I'd rather sort. I like organizing things."

(12) Ben: "Building on Dev's idea, sorting could also work for anyone who can't walk a whole mile, because the table is in the parking lot."

(13) Carmen: "How many of us are there? Our class has twenty-four students. The notice says groups of more than ten have to sign up by the Wednesday before."

(14) Ava: "So if we go as a whole class, we have to sign up by Wednesday. Ben, is that in your notes?"

(15) Ben: "Um, I haven't written anything yet. I was talking."

(16) Dev: "Two minutes left."

(17) Ava: "Let's draw a conclusion. Ben said there was a lot of trash last year, and Carmen reminded us that this year could be different. Dev wants to sort, and Ben said sorting works for people who can't walk the trail. So our class could split into trail pickers and sorters."

(18) Carmen: "Also, the notice says volunteers under 12 have to come with an adult. Most of us are ten or eleven."

(19) Ava: "Then we have an open question: how many adults do we need? Ben, please write that down."

Section 2 · ModelWork through the examples

Worked example 1 — Preparation notes (SL.5.1a). Carmen's notes before the discussion. Question: should our class sign up, and for which job? Key facts: last year 40 volunteers filled 62 bags (notice, sentence 9); three jobs, trail pickers, sorters and welcome crew (sentences 3 to 6); volunteers under 12 need an adult (sentence 7); groups of more than ten sign up by the Wednesday before (last sentence). My idea: our class is more than ten, so the deadline matters; reason: we have twenty-four students. My question: how many adults do we need? Her turns 3, 8, 10, 13 and 18 all come from these notes, which shows that she read the notice and can point to it.

Worked example 2 — Explicitly using known information (SL.5.1b). Turn 2: Ben states information and its source ("The notice says forty volunteers filled sixty-two bags last year") and connects it to the question ("so there is a lot of trash to pick up"). That is explicit use. Carmen's turn 3 explores the idea further: the number is real but from last year, so it cannot prove how much trash is there now. Now a comment that does not use known information: "I think the trail is too long." Revised: "The notice says trail pickers walk a one-mile trail. When my family walked a mile at the park, it took us about twenty minutes, so I think most of us could do it in two hours." The revision names the source of each fact and marks the guess with "I think."

Worked example 3 — Completing a role (SL.5.1c). Ava, the facilitator, states the question and the time limit in turn 1 and invites Ben to start. In turn 5 she brings Dev back to the question without insulting him. In turn 7 she asks the person with the information to share it. In turn 17 she moves the group toward a conclusion, and in turn 19 she names the open question. She completes every job of her role from the first turn to the last, and she does not decide for the group: she says "could," and the conclusion rests on what others said.

Worked example 4 — Furthering comments and specific questions (SL.5.1d, SL.5.1e). Turn 12 elaborates: Ben names Dev's idea and adds a reason (the table is in the parking lot) and a group it helps (anyone who cannot walk a whole mile). Turn 17 draws a conclusion: Ava names four remarks (Ben's about last year's trash, Carmen's caution that this year could differ, Dev's wish to sort and Ben's point about the parking lot) and says what follows from them, splitting the class into two jobs. Turn 9 is a clarifying question: Ben asks exactly what the sorters do and where. Turn 10 responds directly with information from the notice. A vague "What?" in place of turn 9 would not have told Carmen what to explain.

Section 3 · DoPractice, demonstrate, and explain

Representation task — discussion tracker. Make a table with one row for each of the 19 turns and four columns: Who | Role | Move (prepared fact, explicit use of known information, elaboration, conclusion, clarifying question, follow-up question, response, off topic) | Evidence in the words. Then circle every turn that names another person's remark, and star every turn that points to the notice.

Independent performance. Your teacher gives your group a short text and a question. Prepare notes with four parts before the discussion. In a ten-minute small-group discussion, take an assigned role (facilitator, recorder, evidence checker or timekeeper). Afterward, an observer's tally and your own reflection must show each behavior in the success criteria, with the words you actually said. Over the year, take each role at least once and take part in pair and whole-class discussions as well.

Success criteria: I followed our agreed rules. I brought preparation notes that point to the text. At least once I stated information I knew, named where it came from and connected it to the question. I completed every job of my role from start to finish and still took part. I made at least one comment that elaborated on someone's remark by name and one that drew a conclusion from two remarks. I asked at least one specific clarifying or follow-up question, and I answered a question I was asked directly, or said how we could find out.

Section 4 · Check8-question lesson practice test

An adult may read the prompts aloud. Answer independently with words, objects, drawings or a demonstration before opening the answer guide. Award 1 point for a correct result or claim and 1 point for a matching explanation or demonstration; where a question asks only for a result (a corrected sentence, a spelling, a count), a fully correct result earns both points, and the answer guide shows what a complete response contains. Record prompting separately. The total (two points per question) is local practice feedback, not an Ohio proficiency level.

Problem 1

Which student shows most clearly that she came to the discussion prepared, and which student did not come prepared? Give evidence from the numbered turns.

Show worked solution

Carmen shows it most clearly: in turns 3, 8, 10, 13 and 18 she states facts from the notice and can say where they are. Dev did not come prepared: in turn 6 he says, "I didn't really read it," and his turn 4 has no information from the materials. (Ben shows some preparation in turn 2, but in turn 9 he does not know what the sorters do.) Credit needs Carmen and Dev, each with a turn number and the words that show it.

Problem 2

Write the preparation notes Dev should have brought, using the four parts taught in this lesson.

Show worked solution

Question: should our class sign up for the cleanup, and which job should we ask for? Key facts with sources: there are three jobs, trail pickers, sorters and welcome crew (notice); sorters work at the table in the north parking lot (notice); groups of more than ten must sign up by the Wednesday before (notice). My idea with a reason: I would like to sort, because I like organizing things and it is in the parking lot. My question: do sorters need to bring anything? Any notes earn credit if they have the question, two or three facts that are in the notice with where they came from, an idea with a reason and a question.

Problem 3

Rewrite Dev's turn 4 ("Cleanups are boring. Can't we do the science fair instead?") so that it explicitly uses information known about the topic to explore the question under discussion.

Show worked solution

For example: "The notice says there are three jobs. Picking up trash for two hours sounds hard to me, but the sorters work at a table separating bottles and cans, so maybe the job would be less tiring. Could some of us sort?" The rewrite stays on the question, states information and where it comes from (the notice), connects it to an idea, and marks the guess ("sounds hard to me," "maybe"). The science fair is a different topic, so it is dropped.

Problem 4

Ben is the recorder. What does turn 15 show about how he is completing his role? Write the notes he should read back to the group at the end.

Show worked solution

Turn 15 shows he has not done his job: he was talking and has written nothing, so the group has no record. Taking part is right, but a role must still be completed. Notes he should read back: Ideas: lots of trash last year (40 volunteers, 62 bags); sorters work at a table in the north parking lot. Decision so far: our class could split into trail pickers and sorters. Deadline: we are 24 students, more than ten, so we must sign up by the Wednesday before. Open question: under 12 needs an adult; how many adults do we need?

Problem 5

How does Ava complete the facilitator role? Give three turns and explain what she does in each.

Show worked solution

Turn 1: she states the question and the ten-minute limit and invites Ben to start. Turn 5: she brings Dev back to the question politely and points him to the jobs in the notice. Turn 7: she asks Carmen, who has the information, to share it. Turn 17: she moves the group to a conclusion built on others' remarks. Turn 19: she names the open question and asks the recorder to write it. Any three with an explanation earn credit. She does not decide alone; she says the class "could" split.

Problem 6

Write two comments that further the discussion: one that elaborates on Carmen's turn 18, and one that draws a conclusion from Carmen's turns 13 and 18 together.

Show worked solution

Elaborating, for example: "Building on Carmen's point about adults, the sorters' table is in the parking lot, so maybe one adult there could watch several sorters at once." Conclusion, for example: "Carmen said we have twenty-four students, so we must sign up by Wednesday, and she also said volunteers under 12 have to come with an adult, and most of us are ten or eleven. So before Wednesday we should ask the park district or our teacher how many adults we need and whether that affects how we sign up." Each comment must name the person and the remark it builds on; the conclusion must join both remarks and say what follows.

Problem 7

Ben's turn 9 is a clarifying question. Explain why. Then write one specific follow-up question about turn 13, and explain why "What?" would be a weak question there.

Show worked solution

Turn 9 clarifies: Carmen has just named the sorters in turn 8, and Ben asks exactly which part of her remark he does not understand, what sorters do and where. Follow-up about turn 13, for example: "If we sign up as one group of twenty-four, how do we sign up, and who will do it before Wednesday?" It asks for the next step after Carmen's information is understood. "What?" would be weak because it does not say which part Carmen should explain: the class size, the limit of ten or the deadline.

Problem 8

Respond to Ava's question in turn 19, "How many adults do we need?" using only information in the notice. What should a good response include if the notice does not fully answer the question?

Show worked solution

The notice says volunteers under 12 must come with an adult, but it does not say how many children one adult may bring. So a direct, honest response is: "The notice doesn't say how many students each adult can watch. It only says anyone under 12 needs an adult. We should ask the park district or our teacher before Wednesday." A good response answers the question that was asked, uses the information that exists, says clearly what is not known and names how the group could find out, rather than inventing a number.